WHEN people think of
fame it's either the glamorous or the tragic side - champagne-filled
parties or the untimely deaths of public figures such as Amy
Winehouse.
But is that all there
is to it? Comedian, writer, actor and football pundit David Baddiel
thinks not.
In his new show, which
he is bringing to South London for a four-week run starting tonight,
he aims to lift the lid on fame and what it's really all about.
The 49-year-old is well
placed to talk about the subject. He
shot to fame in the late 80s with Rob Newman as part of the
four-piece comedy sketch group the Mary Whitehouse Experience.
Then
in the early 90s he and Rob branched off to do the BBC TV show Newman
And Baddiel In Pieces achieving almost cult status in the process.
They became the first
comedians to sell out arenas - and were credited as inventing comedy
as the new rock 'n' roll - attracting a level of fandom normally
reserved for pop stars - which I witnessed firsthand when I saw them
at a show at the Birmingham Symphony Hall.
"Well, to be fair
they weren't really screaming for me," he chuckles modestly.
But in 1997, David took
a step back from stand-up to concentrate instead on various TV
collaborations with Frank Skinner, write a number of books, a
screenplay and is currently penning a sitcom for Channel 4.
But now he's back at
the mic stand after his enforced hiatus and, although he admits to a
few initial nerves, he is clearly enjoying himself.
We speak as David takes
a short break in Cornwall, before he takes to the stage at the Menier
Chocolate Factory in Southwark.
I start with the
obvious question: what is fame?
"When people think
about fame they think either of the baubles, the glitz and the
glamour of it all or the downside of it, the loneliness and tragedy
associated with fame," he says.
"It can be both of
those things but I think there's another aspect and that is the
mundane and absurd nature of it, which no one talks about.
"The show is not
glorifying fame and saying how wonderful it is to be famous. Instead
I try to illustrate the reality of it and demystify it.
"It's an
interesting thing that can happen to someone - fame is thrilling but
it can also be incredibly annoying."
This annoyance extends
to Twitter, being recognised and stopped in the shops, and dealing
with people's misconceptions.
"Social media,
like Twitter, has changed the nature of fame," he says.
"Twitter is great
but people can get in touch with you at any time. You see different
levels of your fame as people discuss you and you have to deal with
people who hate you.
"If you get too
famous there is a version of you out there that isn't you, so it gets
uncontrollable. I had problems with that, which is one of the reasons
I stopped doing stand-up.
"For me it's about
being slightly more visible.
"The ideal
scenario is that you don't feel so famous that things seem out of
control, but there is enough fame that people are interested in what
you are doing."
And he denies it's a
naval-gazing exercise.
"I basically tell
a series of stories in which I am the butt of the joke in some way or
another in all of them," he laughs before sharing some of the
gems he will be sharing in the show.
"As an example I
was reading Cormac McCarthy's book The Road on the Tube not so long
ago and started crying. People were looking at me and were probably
thinking, 'There's that bloke off the telly crying, he's clearly
having a breakdown'."
This self-mocking also
extends to talking about being mistaken for other famous individuals,
most notably BBC executive Alan Yentob, who is 20 years older than
him and even comedian Ben Elton not to mention
showing the audience mistakes he has made on TV and Twitter over the
years.
Jokes aside, David says
fame has changed since the heady days of the 90s with the screaming
fans and says he is happier now as a result.
"When I was
touring with Rob, things were so different. Not least because I was
20 years younger and doing all the stuff a 20-something would do,"
he says.
"My life was out
of control back then and I wasn't really comfortable with it.
"This feels
different and I'm really enjoying it.
"Now, I am coming
back home most nights, being a dad and doing the school run rather
than living in some kind of closed-off bubble, but that was what you
do when you are young.
"I loved those
shows, but I think it would be stupid to expect things to be the same
now -- andI shouldn't be trying to generate that kind of response now
- it would be ridiculous!
"It's funny though
because I look out at the audience and I do wonder whether some of
them know the History Today sketches - some will know the 'That's
you, that is' catchphrase but I'm sure the younger ones don't know
what the hell I'm talking about!" he laughs.
Now he says he has a
clear sense of who he is and is keen for the Menier audiences to see
the real him.
"The Menier a
lovely theatre," he says. "It's a really cool place, does
brilliant shows, is near the Tate and, of the theatres that asked, it
was the one I wanted to do the show in.
-- "It's also a
good size. I'm actually very anti big venues these days -- partly
because I don't think I could fill them, but I like the intimacy and
this show suits a small room.
"I am slightly
worried about having to do it every night for four weeks though,"
he jokes. "It's a while since I have done that but I'm looking
forward to it!"
Fame: Not The Musical
is at the Menier Chocolate Factory until May 23. Visit
www.menierchocolatefactory.com or call 020 7378 1713 for tickets.